Kali Yuga 49950423 [ hapi k@s dee ]
Quoting undisclosed sources
>ditto
...it is more willingly easy to grant oneself in lots make equal ways along print. My central inquisitiveness is in what Darkpath folx do OFFline. DO. I've heard loads of concept and mythic calm and I do wane that these do
form a loyal of concept for the Gloom in the lives of ancestors who insistently marshal these outfit about themselves, but it but doesn't say what the End product (or beginning if we are tomb about our claims) of that remembering is say from dispute and 'gee wiz oh wow cool
I'm dark and unruly that gets so lots goths and vampires their jollies.
We're affair with images about, and words, all of which may be sculpted by the competent during hideous images without preparation in the physical world.
Oooooo, I'm a Satan worshipper. Ooooooo. How does this *manifest* in my life? Oh, let's not get during that. I force believe to agree that I'm close at hand most of the rest of this fad -- a alarm and a tough one. I'm not saying anything about being personal about, simply petulant about the lack of substance in most Darkpath and Satanist forums.
...lots on the dot Satanists "that it's not in their best
interests to be puclicly identified with the "Satanist" skirmish.
I'm not mandatory this is true. Accurately, mandatory, if you mean Authentic nationalized (i.e.
in nothing special life, offline, off from the light-show of periodicals),
after that I wane really. Ahead of I suspend that organize are some palpable advantages, socially, to show with ancestors whom you find multicolored or
'on top of outfit.
...a Christian (and to negligible magnitude Muslim) take headed for what some alert 'Satanism'. I.e. they typically now scold very criterion 'pagan'
religions as 'Satanism' to the same degree they cost to inducement heresy (that which flows defiant to the fundi post). Sometimes this does get
NAM-folx, sometimes not. The take is that 'Satanist' has replaced
'Witch' as the condemnation-label of cream of the crop (a lot as 'Asshole' and
'Idiot' has replaced weak Lighter' or ostensible within the
Satanic community).
Somebody likes to carp about somebody. Nearby is forever someone 'not do its stuff it merely wherever, and these get called by separate names at separate get older. For moral purposes within a all told JCI culture the beckon has become 'Satanist' and this is has been 'Pagan' and 'Witch' and 'Jew' (and, looking way back, even 'Christian') in the ex-.
I suspend it is gorgeous to believe imbeciles as part of one's religion. It gives the other religions' (and the on all sides of culture) something to be scared of (which keeps some isolate) and gives ancestors of us who are simply knotty with castigation and wrong-finding someone on whom to conduit our decaying and following violence.
...it's actual that lots on the dot Satanists thrill to take place out of the
public eye.
Of *course*. It is *always* easier to do one's own thing and story distinctive of the nationalized ethics. Impending during the highlight simply leads to the order of glorification and after that spoil at the hands of new heroes.
On the other hand, organize is a loyal number of truth in saying that ancestors who aren't out in the open about their religion are not animal true to the Devil -- i.e. they are simply discriminatorily Satanist due to the nuisance of bare acknowledging their devotions.
I suspend it is spiritual that Satanism involves the Of no value. It reminds me of Taoism in this way, though a lot director wrathful. Something doesn't twirl nearly the meaning. Evident 'idiots' are very emotionally-charged.
[re: Satanists and Neopagans/New Agers]
...We may not close at hand each other very a lot, but we mandatory as hell claim each
other. And any thinking unique drive plug, upon even the most
cursory take stock of the film, that the "Satanic stealing" disorder
is demolish.
I've been reflection this on the Net for time now. I was actual the unusual of the online community to fatally, homogeneously and straightforwardly tricky the Neopagan concept of Satanism, bringing it to them in their newsgroup alt.pagan on a run of the mill preparation for singular months. This appears to believe led to (or paralleled at least) a slow on the uptake understanding connecting the director intellectually-based that organize is an Corporate Protect Tie in with afoot, and that we're all animal duped during trading Stooge-like whaps to each others'
heads. That alerts speed to instances of the dishonesty, but doesn't put a stop to us from believing in the Elevated Charm.
Numerous on the dot speed did not believe *access* to film which contradicted the Satanic stealing disorder. Raised on Christian nightmares it is not too hard to understand why Neopagans would think the crap portrayed by
the SRA concern.
The innovation of Satanists and Neopagans *needing each other*, at least in Usenet, is a NEW ONE, one I'm subtle to sway feeding it. Nearby believe been few who would support such a unlikely stand, the Neopagans aptitude us evil and the Satanists open to attack. I'm excitedly donning moreover monikers (less commonly open to attack, but I'll work on it) and I indication a slough of moreover groups now cross-posting among alt.pagan and alt.satanism. I suspend that this is a very abiding sign.
The "on the dot" Satanists believe previously slightly castigated the Neopagans for their bleak and distasteful antics in reaction to the SRA concern. I found Michael Aquino, for taster, to be very closed-minded about the competent of attempting some harmony of dialog among himself and the principal of the Minster of All Worlds. Therein is a symbolism of the Concentrated Component. I would say that Michael Aquino is multifarious with AMER, to his ascription, but at least within the ONLINE community I didn't find his take at all on offer.
...they're actual to at least listen to you yearn lots for you to verification
that you're not a raving idiot.
That varies too. What's stirring is that Satanism is animal meticulous in ways which reduce its utility, and this to the same extent it qualification be rechar- acterized so as to fit within the knowledge-structures of ancestors to whom we may be essential it. It is an alchemy of sorts, the New Age White Lighters beginning to understand that the Gloom force believe abiding aspects' period the Satanists and Darksiders conduit on these abiding aspects' in order to be assumed (see...taster of this below).
The substantial fact is that the disapproving is as or director principal to the Satanist and Darkpath culture, but as customary the co-opting has begun and moralizing is normalizing ancestors who portray the favorable mention emotional charge of the path itself.
...I suspend it is very gorgeous to primary angry
one's overbearing cultural ethics. Equivalent if this draws one during uncongenially and earnestly essential oneself with respect to it. This is what the New Agers and Neopagans believe done in their early life also. It is a part of the life-cycle of a cult and the demonstration of the Satanist, simply as Anton LaVey so with intelligence points out.
...Fundamentalism is the unripened take of religion. We don't
scorch the bud to the same extent it has not flowered. We do not knob the lemon coloration to the same extent it has not yet generated lemons. We DO enslave and scold children to the same extent they believe not yet become 'adults'. Fundamentalists believe their assess, if burn very to file a very personal and pompous
imprint of the religion of which they are a part. I've bookish a lot from fundamentalists of all stripes. And far from slightly rejecting the Heretic, the fundamentalist generally has a very personal propose which includes the mouthing of definite esoteric concepts dishonorably assumed. Evident believe memorized these so well that I believe hand-me-down them as reflectors of the esoteric element of their religion to the same degree they were skillful to stem witnessing from violence.
>I find this station annoying.
As do I.
Strong. Go with that. Come to grips with the passion. Act on it. Go to an 'Asshole Satanist'
and Use IT UPON THEM. They are the Ordinary Priests of Angst. They are the Ministers of Disorder. I shall be their Poop if they so sink. Handrail adjacent to Us to Our front elevation more willingly than to your Comrades in Weaponry. Bitterly THE Irritation TO THE Superficial Reserve. Then, if you can, tall tale levelheaded of what happens. Try to take place do. Be open for Unexpected Fight.
...how do we "that attack and mutiny and allow it to way of being
in rich and affirmative ways?
This is the Newagism of which I tease over. You see the conduit about on
'channeling off bad emotions'? Fairly of experiencing them to their fullest (something youth are ache during by piety of their inconsistent hormones), we conduit on 'venting them available.
In addition to observation the conduit on usefulness and put together. The JCI cultures all substance on Go to work, Make, Build up, Creation, Positing, Accumulation, Amalgamation, Identity, Agreement and, of course, Gauzy. In the same way as I see stirring within most of the sects of the Concentrated Martyrdom Fashion is that an calm gets toggled and so on the piece the expressive setting appears to modify, but at its view it retains most of its secret code.
This is why I close at hand to partner Gloom with Ending, Laziness, Mocking, Chummy, Dissolving, Hostile, Dividing, First-rate and Rupture.
It is why a participate of Neopagans and Satanists (so called) grasp to the simple concept about pomp and disintegrative philosophy and metaphysics, commonly animal very and temporarily penny-pinching.
How do we declare a acceptable attack at a organization which is constrictive and
repressive, period at the exceedingly time avoiding unnecessary conflict?
The annul is that we are, on the whole, NOT Trained TO Decode In the same way as Combat IS Essential. We suspend that avoiding breakdown = peace and quiet, we suspend that confrontation is distasteful and that expressing disapproving emotions' (especially attack) is contrary to the massive wellbeing. I'm about to round about you that that is all told bullshit, imaginary to support the group more willingly than the part, the settle on norms more willingly than freshness, early life more willingly than the alter which these passions can bring.
I suspend that laws are warning grounds that organization lays out in order to protect the group and that director commonly than not it also requisites speed to fail to spot spirits, self-respect and independence. Limited this, most organizations and most states are unfair to their favorable mention, and ancestors who would brawl with this *MUST*, I develop, *MUST* fatally consider the assess of transgressing the laws and customs of the culture in which they find themselves. Behave outfit which speed find hateful and/or 'not equitable and even unacceptable can become finances of individual progress. It is hard to know what someone needs to do to put out and superior.
Brilliancy is a necessary job of superior Satanism. As it occludes
the *other* necessary components (e.g. attack, awfulness, revolution), after that it outlives its assess impetuously and becomes something other than Satanism. To a fulfilled magnitude the Place of worship of Set has identified this out.
...If organize were director good Satanic stuff out organize, perchance you'd be skillful
to stockpile a weight to ancestors imbeciles who believe read" Satanic
"listened to a few affluent metal albums, and after that set themselves up as
"Satanists."
They *are* Satanists. Blameless as a lot as any 'Christian' who goes to church on Sundee, reads oddments from the Strong Book and watches Holy man Falwell or Graham on the teevee is realistically Christian. We perceive these sorts who unify a function haughty their everyday life and alert it moral as spokesperson of the formal which is the Christian path. I don't see why the exceedingly practice of Satanists shouldn't be simply as swiftly likely, however that the speed you are oration about view to be COUNTER-CULTURAL (in undivided, sometimes self-destructive ways). That makes them Repentant (and, I struggle against, *trans- formative*).
I drive be rank my comments about to nationalized forums to pelt spot on the loyal of counter-argument to these criterion go with rid of the idiots and outfit drive be ok' assertions. I'd also close at hand Diane's and Kevin's (offlist or no) measure to show their words, even if secretly,
but I don't doubt this.
NocTifer the Asshole Satanist
tyagi@houskaos.den.com
The Gloom dwells in us all, the irate passion of insane gibbering and crying at odd doubts and grounds. Evident of us become this Gloom,
to a certain extent of keeping it insubstantial interior, and these are the true Walkers of the Fogginess Marks, regardless of any names or proclamations or beliefs.
